[WIP] Reno suit.

[esperesa]

To FFVII anon: I've started with Reno's suit. Is this about right? Something feels off and I can't put my finger on it. XD I've no idea what kind of shoes he wears in AC, though - I could only find one picture that showed them and they looked like brown...somethings.





I still need to fix some animations, the crappy mapping of the top part of the zipper and the shoulder shape and whatnot. Nevermind my crappy Reno-sim.

ETA: Hey guys, thank you so much for the input! I'm putting a little list of changes here for my own reference, after your suggestions. I want to make it as accurate as possible and appreciate any input you might have!

- The jacket should be a bit oversized.
- Make the shoes slightly rounder (like boots), change textures around a bit and add dirt.
- The collar of his blouse should peep over the jacket. The blouse should be a bit looser too, reaching his derrière.
- Add a zipper as detail to the jacket.
- The bottom part of the jacket is tailored as a slight V, not round or square.
- I think the sleeves need to be a bit longer too, as part of the loose/scrawny lad thing.

ETA 2
I have the mesh about 75% done. Currently working on draping the collar over the jacket and making sure it animates nicely.

Comments

[nathanialroyale]

I SQUEED.

[esperesa]

8D!!

[(Anonymous)]

Wow, it's looking good! Thanks so much for doing this~ 8D

Hmm, maybe what's "off" is the collar of the white shirt? It's supposed to stick out pretty far over the jacket loosely. :)

Another thing could be that the jacket doesn't look loose enough? I know Sim clothes can't really hang freely, but that might be what you're seeing. His suit's pretty baggy on him because he's so scrawny. XD

I don't know the names of shoes, but the shoes you made look about right to me. I know they're black, but they're pretty dirty. The soles are brownish with black on top and white stitches, and they've got mud on them. They're shaped different from Rude's...I'm really bad at descriptions, but I found some pictures of them if you want to see. :3

http://tinypic.com/r/1p9z5z/5

http://tinypic.com/r/atnlgh/5

http://tinypic.com/r/dpuuxu/5

http://tinypic.com/r/2eo9xme/5

http://tinypic.com/r/jp8nwk/5

[esperesa]

Hmm, they do look more boot-like than dressy, like Rude's. I can try fiddling with the shape a bit, make it a tad rounder, and add dirt on the soles. The ones I used now are the same as those I used on that Ausencia outfit and they might be a bit too sharp as they are.

RE: [WIP] Reno suit.

[(Anonymous)]

You've got the outfit right thus far, save for one part: the white collar. It sticks out and loosely overlaps the collar of his black suit. But the dress shoes are definitely of a right color--of black. Maybe add some dirt-over-a-polished-finish type of effect to the black shoes? The white collar is the only thing I'm spotting that's definitely not right (I feel like such a nerd having watched FF VII: ACC so many times lol). Other than that, it's accurate and great so far! I cannot wait to put this on my Reno Sim with mio's new hair. :)

P.S. I do not know if it's possible, (seeing how it's TS2 we're talking about) but if you're able to make it as loose-looking as ya can, I think it would make any Reno Sim look good. ;)

Re: [WIP] Reno suit.

[(Anonymous)]

Right, right! :D That's the things I saw, too. The white collar, the looseness of the suit, and dirty black shoes. I've studied the Turks' suits down to each stitch everywhere in the Compilation. I got me some Turks obsession~ ;3

Re: [WIP] Reno suit.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, hmm, I don't know about the "polished finish" thing...Reno's shoes are supposed to be pretty dull and dirty. Now Rude's shoes would definitely be polished because he's Mr. Clean OCD. Reno is his opposite, and has really dirty shoes. :P

Re: [WIP] Reno suit.

[esperesa]

Will definitely look at that collar and the loose jacket thing! One problem I've had with TS2 clothes is that loose tends to look like...well, bulky, but maybe with some tailoring and folds at the waist... Ideas ideas.

[mjspice]

OMG IT'S RENO!

[esperesa]

Haha, or Yuxi's half-assed version of him at least! XD

[(Anonymous)]

I found some pics where you can see the looseness of the collar. Not only does it stick out over the black suit, it's loose, open, and folded over all the way down to the button. :)

http://tinypic.com/r/6pq0ls/5

http://tinypic.com/r/14ni8hg/5

[esperesa]

Terrific, those will help a lot!
The shirt texture though, is it white or subtly striped? I went for subtly striped after seeing that promo picture where he sticks out his tongue, but it looks like a nasty grey on my picture instead XD.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, yes. The white shirt does have subtle stripes in the movie. :)

[(Anonymous)]

I wouldn't worry too much about the white shirt seeming a bit gray because of the stripes. They look a little gray through most of the movie anyway, due to the gloomy lighting. Even the collars, which don't have stripes. 8\

http://tinypic.com/r/t6dqo6/5

[(Anonymous)]

Hmm, I just thought of something else around the bottom of the zipper area. Turks have kinda an upside down "V" shape at the bottom of their suits. Reno has it too, but his suit is unzipped. But you can still see the "diagonal" shapes at the bottom of his suit.

The upside down "V" shape:

http://tinypic.com/r/efqhc7/5

The "V" on Reno:

http://tinypic.com/r/24pxxd4/5

http://tinypic.com/r/f0tcon/5

http://tinypic.com/r/a3jmdv/5

Also, don't forget his zipper pull! As you can see, there's a great big zipper dangle-y thing. This is the closest pic I have of the zipper, I think. But it's kinda blurry. You can probably see it more clearly in the pics above. :S

http://tinypic.com/r/123xkc2/5

[esperesa]

Ah-ha! I see what you mean. I'm going to redo the entire jacket to make it more loose, and I'll keep that in mind.
Also, hmm... I noticed the sleeves seem to fall a bit over his hands, not showing the white shirt underneath unless he raises his arms.

The dangly thing for the zipper, I think I'll mesh that on separately because I like meshed-on details 8|~.

[(Anonymous)]

And, maybe the pocket on the chest might be a little high. I'm really sorry, I sound so nit-picky. I've just been dreaming of the perfect Turks suits for my simmies for soooooooooo long~ :O

[esperesa]

Haha, it's cool! It didn't look quite right to me either, so I'm really glad for the pointers and critique!

[(Anonymous)]

I can't see your suit from the back, but please don't forget his shirt-tail pokes out. There's also an upside-down "V" on the back of the suit, too. :)

http://tinypic.com/r/2qvf3gx/5

http://tinypic.com/r/6prwx4/5

http://tinypic.com/r/111kqht/5

http://tinypic.com/r/2v9drfc/5

http://tinypic.com/r/r754jt/5

And I think this pic of the zipper might be better, hopefully. Hooray for meshed zippers!!! 8D

http://tinypic.com/r/mx1x8h/5

[esperesa]

I didn't even know that back part peeked out like that! It's easy to make, luckily.

[ariad]

ohhhhh my goodness. I have two or three versions of Reno's suit already, but this is looking far better than any of them. I agree that it may help to have it look looser at the bottom, but I would warn against making it too loose because a problem with one of the Reno suits I have now is that its looseness obscures Reno's lean physique. I'm sure you can make it work, though. I love all of your clothing. sdjgdlkgjlkdjhgkjhg

[(Anonymous)]

I know, Reno is sooooooo scrawny, but his suit is super loose and falling off him in AC. (probably because he's so darn bony...) It's not fitted to his waist at all. When he moves around we can see how thin he is, but Sim clothes can't do that. :( Hmm, it's so baggy on him, sometimes I wonder if he's wearing one of Rude's suits... ;)

[(Anonymous)]

Yuxi, I don't know if it will help, but I have both of the Reno figures. One is from AC the other is from BC. I'm in the hospital right now for a few months, but I can ask my sister at home to take pictures of him if you want to see how his clothes fit him, his shoes, etc. The figure's clothes fit him a little differently than in the movie, probably because of the same 'bulkiness' issue Sims have. It might help. :)

[esperesa]

Oooh, I actually used some pictures of action figures as references, but there were some subtle differences (like the coat, as you said - I thought it was slightly tailored at first, and the shoes looked slightly different) so I was confusing myself into a tizzy. XD Thank you so much for offering, though! And ack, hospitals. D: Hope you'll get better soon!

[(Anonymous)]

Yeppers, I agree with the longer sleeves over the hands thing, too. His suit just swallows him whole. The list is looking really good to me. :D

Hmm, something I've noticed about the white shirt at the bottom, sometimes the upside-down 'V' is closed, and sometimes it's open. You can see in some of the pics above. It just depends on how he's standing or moving. :)

If you want to be as accurate as possible (yay!) you can try taking a break and watching the the movie to see his beautiful suit in action. 8D

Waaaaahhh, and thanks so much, Yuxi! I can't believe Yuxi-fied custom-meshed Turks suits are coming~ It's so awesome you really care about getting this right and are letting everyone get involved. :3

[(Anonymous)]

Do you think you'd do cool CC/BC era versions too, or just AC? I was just thinking it'd be awesome to make a Uni of the Shinra Military Academy with younger versions of the Turks, suits and all. The outfits were a different, more anime-ish style to make them look more like lanky teens/young adults. Also good for people who want to see Reno's scrawny physique. :D

[(Anonymous)]

Aye. It'll be neat to see the rest of the Turks suits. Knowing how well you make classy outfits, Yuxi, I think you could definitely pull it off--the making of the Turks suits. :) Whether that happens or not is up to you, but I'd be fascinated either way. Your works are astounding...and an inspiration for me! ^-^

Sincerely,
Edorenel